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« on: July 22, 2009, 01:58:29 PM »

Sen. Thune’s (R-SD) Amendment 1618 to the Defense Appropriation Bill (S. 1390)

http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=111&session=1&vote=00237#position

Statement of Purpose:    To amend chapter 44 of title 18, United States Code, to allow citizens who have concealed carry permits from the State in which they reside to carry concealed firearms in another State that grants concealed carry permits, if the individual complies with the laws of the State.


Vote results

YEAs —58 in support

Alexander (R-TN)
Barrasso (R-WY)
Baucus (D-MT)
Bayh (D-IN)
Begich (D-AK)
Bennet (D-CO)
Bennett (R-UT)
Bond (R-MO)
Brownback (R-KS)
Bunning (R-KY)
Burr (R-NC)
Casey (D-PA)
Chambliss (R-GA)
Coburn (R-OK)
Cochran (R-MS)
Collins (R-ME)
Conrad (D-ND)
Corker (R-TN)
Cornyn (R-TX)
Crapo (R-ID)
DeMint (R-SC)
Dorgan (D-ND)
Ensign (R-NV)
Enzi (R-WY)
Feingold (D-WI)
Graham (R-SC)
Grassley (R-IA)
Gregg (R-NH)
Hagan (D-NC)
Hatch (R-UT)
Hutchison (R-TX)
Inhofe (R-OK)
Isakson (R-GA)
Johanns (R-NE)
Johnson (D-SD)
Kyl (R-AZ)
Landrieu (D-LA)
Lincoln (D-AR)
Martinez (R-FL)
McCain (R-AZ)
McConnell (R-KY)
Murkowski (R-AK)
Nelson (D-NE)
Pryor (D-AR)
Reid (D-NV)
Risch (R-ID)
Roberts (R-KS)
Sessions (R-AL)
Shelby (R-AL)
Snowe (R-ME)
Tester (D-MT)
Thune (R-SD)
Udall (D-CO)
Udall (D-NM)
Vitter (R-LA)
Warner (D-VA)
Webb (D-VA)
Wicker (R-MS)

NAYs —39

Akaka (D-HI)
Bingaman (D-NM)
Boxer (D-CA)
Brown (D-OH)
Burris (D-IL)
Cantwell (D-WA)
Cardin (D-MD)
Carper (D-DE)
Dodd (D-CT)
Durbin (D-IL)
Feinstein (D-CA)
Franken (D-MN)
Gillibrand (D-NY)
Harkin (D-IA)
Inouye (D-HI)
Kaufman (D-DE)
Kerry (D-MA)
Klobuchar (D-MN)
Kohl (D-WI)
Lautenberg (D-NJ)
Leahy (D-VT)
Levin (D-MI)
Lieberman (ID-CT)
Lugar (R-IN)
McCaskill (D-MO)
Menendez (D-NJ)
Merkley (D-OR)
Murray (D-WA)
Nelson (D-FL)
Reed (D-RI)
Rockefeller (D-WV)
Sanders (I-VT)
Schumer (D-NY)
Shaheen (D-NH)
Specter (D-PA)
Stabenow (D-MI)
Voinovich (R-OH)
Whitehouse (D-RI)
Wyden (D-OR)

Not Voting - 3
Byrd (D-WV)
Kennedy (D-MA)
Mikulski (D-MD)
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« Reply #1 on: July 22, 2009, 03:11:57 PM »

All the Southern states with the exception of Nelson of Florida voted "Yea."
I may start whistling Dixie.
The good thing to take from this is that it is pretty clear that at least 58 senators (including 20 Democrats) are pro gun. At least that is how I am reading this.
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« Reply #2 on: July 23, 2009, 10:26:38 AM »

This in from one of our members:

It would have been helpful if you would have noted that this vote was technically on cloture, and would have required 60 Ayes to pass, and was not a straight up-or-down vote on the amendment per se.

Respectfully,
Drew Kelley
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« Reply #3 on: July 23, 2009, 10:35:06 AM »

from NRA
http://www.nraila.org/News/Read/InTheNews.aspx?ID=12727]
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Sen. Thune: Anti-gun Senators defeat common sense Right-to-Carry amendment

"Today, overheated rhetoric and fear mongering overcame common sense. My amendment would allow responsible firearms owners to protect themselves while obeying the firearms laws of the states they visit. The individual right to self-defense should not end at the state line. Despite today's defeat, this amendment had bipartisan support and I hope the Senate will reconsider this important issue in the future."

Read About It: U.S. Senate


John Thune website STATEMENT
http://thune.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=PressReleases.Detail&PressRelease_id=b75a5661-1aa3-4ac8-8563-7cf784b018f7&Month=7&Year=2009

Posted: 7/23/2009 9:14:51 AM
July 22nd, 2009 - Washington, D.C. - Senator John Thune today issued the following statement after his bipartisan amendment that would allow individuals to lawfully carry concealed firearms across state lines so long as the laws of the host state are obeyed was defeated by a vote of 58 to 39:

"Today, overheated rhetoric and fearmongering overcame common sense. My amendment would allow responsible firearms owners to protect themselves while obeying the firearms laws of the states they visit. The individual right to self-defense should not end at the state line. Despite today's defeat, this amendment had bipartisan support and I hope the Senate will reconsider this important issue in the future."

Senator Thune's amendment would not change or nullify any existing state concealed weapons laws. Individuals traveling outside of the state where there permit is issued must comply with all laws of the host state, or face prosecution. Despite the support of a majority of the Senate, including 20 Democrats, the amendment required 60 votes for passage.

The Thune Amendment is cosponsored by Senators John Barrasso (R-WY), Max Baucus (D-MT), Mark Begich (D-AK), Robert Bennett (R-UT), Sam Brownback (R-KS), Jim Bunning (R-KY), Richard Burr (R-NC), Saxby Chambliss (R-GA), Tom Coburn (R-OK), Thad Cochran (R-MS), John Cornyn (R-TX), Mike Crapo (R-ID), Jim DeMint (R-SC), John Ensign (R-NV), Mike Enzi (R-WY), Lindsay Graham (R-SC), Chuck Grassley (R-IA), Judd Gregg (R-NH), Orrin Hatch (R-UT), James Inhofe (R-OK), Johnny Isakson (R-GA),Mike Johanns (R-NE), John McCain (R-AZ), Jim Risch (R-ID), Pat Roberts (R-KS), Jon Tester (D-MT), David Vitter (R-LA), and Roger Wicker (R-MS) 


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